Any - Premium fuels - do they improve mpg? - galileo |
The price difference between standard unleaded and premium (e.g Shell V power) locally is about 6%, so only worth the extra if mpg is increased by more than this amount. Obviously some cars designed for higher octane fuel will go better, my question is not about acceleration/speed but mpg in normal driving. Has anyone measured the difference (if any) in ordinary cars? |
Any - Premium fuels - do they improve mpg? - Falkirk Bairn | ||||||
I use V-power - no appreciable change in mpg from normal but both my X-trail & CRV run smoother, quieter, seems a wee bit nippier........... all non-measurable by the punter. 30mpg for 9000miles = 300 gallons @ even 40p = £120.00 per year = £2.40 per week With depreciation, Road tax, Ins, Servicing, tyres it is neither here nor there - the £2.40 won't buy a cup of coffee these days. | ||||||
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Any - Premium fuels - do they improve mpg? - craig-pd130 | |||||
I did a test in my 2011 Volvo V60 D3 (163bhp) - a fairly modern turbodiesel with a relatively up-to-date common rail injection system and DPF. I ran 10 consecutive tankfuls of nothing but Shell V-Power (i.e. about 6000 miles over 6 months using no other fuel), and compared with the 10 previous tankfuls of Shell's ordinary Fuelsave (easy for me to do, as Shell is my nearest filling station and is the same price as the local supermarkets). So I did about 6000 miles in 6 months on 'ordinary' fuel, and then 6000 miles in 6 months on Shell's premium stuff. I got a brim-to-brim average of 46.29mpg on V-Power compared with 45.12mpg on Fuelsave. At the time, V-Power cost 8p per litre more than the ordinary stuff. Or, to express it in percentages, I got a 2.6% improvement in economy for spending the extra 5.7% cost of V-Power. I reckon that the 10 tanks / 6000 miles on each fuel was sufficient to reduce the influence of variables like ambient temperatures, type of journey etc. Please note I said REDUCE, not eliminate, the influence of variables, before people jump down my throat on this :) There was no detectable difference in performance at all. I concluded that while V-Power might make a small difference to economy, it wasn't worth paying the extra for, compared with the ordinary, cheaper Fuelsave. | |||||
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Any - Premium fuels - do they improve mpg? - Manatee |
I have monitored mpg at each fill for extended periods, and have found no pattern of better economy with petrol or diesel (mainly diesel), using Shell/BP mainly. The Shell and BP super diesel (I think Total Excellium has disappeared?) AFAIK are GTL based so inherently cleaner. The Esso one, from the blurb I infer, is just the claimed better additive package. The benefit I would be after is just a cleaner engine and particularly diesel injectors, which could I suppose influence economy longer term. The German company Aral developed BP Ultimate diesel. They did significant testing and on a Euro 3 diesel it was reasonably expected to give a 50% smoke reduction IIRC. It seems reasonable to think that cleaner burn (more complete combustion and less crud in the fuel in the first place) might have some benefit for DPFs and maybe EGRs - but I am not aware that anybody has made that claim. There was also a claimed fuel saving of c 3%, but that is hard to see in the noise for most people I think. I use the super diesel when I can get it, and when I can't I chuck some Millers in it, but that doesn't turn it into super diesel - it can't remove the crud from ordinary diesel, which is a simple distillation product of crude oil, but I think it does help stop the muck from gumming up the injectors. My subjective evidence for that is a Scorpio I once had, with the VM diesel boat engine, that smoked quite badly - Millers cleaned up the exhaust quite a lot, which I put down to cleaner injectors and a better spray pattern. E&OE. I'm not a real petroleum chemist, but I knew a bloke who was, and he thought the Shell V-Power and BP Ultimate were worth the extra. EDIT - just seen craig-pd130's post above. His 2.6% economy improvement is very much on the scale of the 3% assumption. Edited by Manatee on 18/09/2014 at 13:07 |
Any - Premium fuels - do they improve mpg? - Cyd | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
using live data from my ecu I can measure a variety of variables. One of these is horsepower at the wheels, calculated from the vehicles acceleration and [known] weight. On standard BP unleaded my maximum hp at the wheels is 208 at 5200rpm. On Shell Vpower it is 222 at 5400. before the nay-sayers start shouting me down, conditions were very similar (road, car load, ambient temp, warm up runs etc - testing was only a few days apart). I believe the improvement is larger than experimental error. The car is much better to drive, particularly in the mid range (it's forte is overtaking with 360Nm on tap from 2250 to 4000rpm) on my regular run to work (on the M6/M42 over 45 miles each way), driving fairly consistantly gently over several tanks fulls, I have found an improvement of around 2mpg on VPower and about 1.5mpg on Ultimate. My wife runs a C1. the car does the same journeys every week. On standard unleaded over several months it averaged 47 to 50mpg over tankfulls, only once touching 51mpg. A few weeks ago we started filling it with Total Excellium (available in our town) and the mpg is now typically in the 54 to 57 region. So, I believe super unleaded (note that premium is the standard stuff) CAN improve the power or economy of a car, but results will be variable from car to car and how the car is driven. I've done almost 30k in my car now and most of that has been on super unleaded. Looking down the plug holes recently it was obvious that the piston crowns are cleaner than they were soon after I got it. So longevity of the engine and it's performance is also likely to be enhanced by th euse of super. A desirable outcome for me, but not necessarily high on others priorities. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Any - Premium fuels - do they improve mpg? - 3puddings | |||||||||||
My last car an Automatic C3 would get an increase of fuel economy of about 4% using premium unleaded at at time when the difference in price was about 7%. I had more impact on fuel economy by driving economically when I could push it to about 46mpg from about 40mpg, but this involved driving no more that 55mph, basically driving like my Dad which was no fun at all, | |||||||||||
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Any - Premium fuels - do they improve mpg? - MAASS42 |
I've been looking into this recently. purchased a standard 1.2 corsa Petrol, 5 years old from a dealer with 25k on the clock. In the first 3 months of having it the best it managed was 260 miles on a full tank, 26mpg. This was all around town driving. I thought to myself this is pretty rubbish for a small engined car, i expected more. Looked around online, looked into these premium fuels. From all my research it seemed obvious Shell V Power Nitro + was the best quality fuel to put in your car for longevity of your engine and hopefully better mpg. Also Tesco momentum 99 as a second choice. Ive been trying the V power for 2 tanks, I ran the standard unleaded more or less empty to 1 or 2 litres and started filling up full tanks on the vpower. I'm now getting 345 miles from a tank, an increase of 85 miles in a standard 1.2 engined car. To me thats excellent. To fill my tank up on v power just costs me £4 more so if i take that small cost into account im still gaining 60 miles on standard unleaded petrol and saving about £11 every time i fill up. Forget about any negative opinions on Premium fuels, Any petrol car under 15 years can take them, take your car along near empty, fill up and drive the same as you always do, and see what you gain in mpg, i wasnt after a performance increase as its only a 1.2 corsa lol. It does drive smoother though. All cars probably react differently so see how yours does, im well happy, i'll be using V Power till i pop, I might try a tank of Tesco momentum 99 in a tank or two just to compare, Happy driving Guys |
Any - Premium fuels - do they improve mpg? - DanCactus1200 | |||||
As someone with a fair amount of motor trade experiance, my opinion is that Premium fuels are worth the extra depending on your vehicle. In my personal vehicle, a Citroen Cactus with the Puretech 82 engine fitted, it is not worth it. However, a friend of mine currently owns a large CC petrol engined 2004 Mercedes CLK in which his fuel econemy improved to 35 MPG and more from an averge of 22 MPG. Also, I was presented with a 2008 BMW 320i which belonged to a friend of mine which had several running concerns. Essentially the problems were all caused by using the "wrong" fuel. BMW did not demand to used a Premium fuel but it certainly made a huge difference in performace and fuel econemy and almost definintely is extending the life of the engine. Also, the Peugeot Citroen EP range of engines, introduced in 2006, will require to run of the most premium fuel avaliable (even if it isn't demanded by the manufacturer) if you do not want it to write itself off within around 30,000 miles! If your engine is at all inspired with perfomance, then YES use the premium fuels. Other than that it is trial and error really, give it a go and see how your car and MPG figures respond and decide from there. Just PLEASE do not use any of the fuel additives avaliable from Halfords! | |||||
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FAQs
Do you get better mpg with premium fuel? ›
Premium gas has a higher resistance to engine knock in luxury and performance vehicles with turbochargers or high-compression engines, so you can hit that horsepower smoothly. Additionally, premium gas can increase fuel efficiency, potentially bringing better gas mileage for longer while decreasing emissions.
Does Shell V Power improve mpg? ›on my regular run to work (on the M6/M42 over 45 miles each way), driving fairly consistantly gently over several tanks fulls, I have found an improvement of around 2mpg on VPower and about 1.5mpg on Ultimate.
What premium gasoline is recommended? ›“Use premium unleaded gasoline with a posted octane rating of 91 or higher. If the octane rating is less than 91, you could damage the engine and may void your vehicle warranty. If heavy knocking is heard when using gasoline rated at 91 octane or higher, the engine needs service.”
Does premium gas get better mileage reddit? ›Why YSK: I've heard for a long time that "premium" gas will give you higher gas mileage, more performance, a cleaner engine, etc. This is not true. Certain engines require higher or lower octane fuels depending on their compression ratio, and to prevent engine knocking.
Does 93 octane give you better gas mileage? ›So is Higher Octane Fuel More Efficient? In a word, no. On its own paying for premium gasoline does not make your car run better or get greater gas mileage. Giving your car the fuel it requires to run smoothly and efficiently, without damage to the engine, does make a difference in your fuel mileage.
Is there a downside to using premium gas? ›The higher octane gives premium gas greater resistance to early fuel ignition, which can result in potential damage, sometimes accompanied by audible engine knocking or pinging.
What upgrades improve mpg? ›- Fuel Economy Monitor. If you don't know what your fuel consumption and MPG is, how on earth can you make any changes? ...
- Eco-Friendly Tyres. ...
- Synthetic Oils. ...
- Aerodynamic Body Mods. ...
- Weight Saving Parts. ...
- Go Automatic. ...
- ECU Tune/Remap.
It's best to drive the speed limit and use cruise control when possible. Rapid acceleration and hard braking quickly eat up fuel, so avoid those actions whenever possible. When your tires are underinflated, fuel consumption can increase by as much as 3%.
How can I maximize my mpg? ›- Accelerate and decelerate smoothly. ...
- Remove Excess Weight. ...
- Check your speed & use cruise control. ...
- Use your gears properly. ...
- Service & maintain your car. ...
- Avoid Unnecessary Idling. ...
- Use air con & heating functions wisely. ...
- Don't Coast.
There's no such thing as “better gas.” Companies like Chevron try to tell you their gasoline is superior because it has Techron in it. However, all gas has detergents that prevent clogging in the fuel injector, and no brand of gas is better quality than any other for your vehicle.
Is Shell or Chevron better? ›
In short, both brands are equally good when it comes to quality. Considering that both Shell and Chevron are branded as top tier, it's easy to conclude that their gas meets the required performance standards.
Who has the best gas quality 2022? ›— Kwik Trip is the best gas station brand in the United States for the third year in a row, according to the 2022 USA Today 10Best Readers' Choice Awards.
Does premium gas run out slower? ›Octane ratings are plastered all over every gas pump, and, contrary to marketing terminology, "premium" does not necessarily indicate a fuel is "better" for your car as much as whether it is "right" for your car. Fuel with an 87 octane rating burns more quickly while higher-octane fuels burn more slowly.
Why do cars recommend premium gas? ›Premium gas — that is, gas with an octane rating of 91 or more — is required for some high performance and luxury vehicles. Gasoline with a high octane rating is more difficult to ignite, which helps prevent pre-ignition and knocking in high performance engines.
What is the difference between Supreme and Supreme Plus gas? ›But what's the difference, other than the price? Regular gas has the lowest octane rating, Premium has a higher octane and Super (or Supreme or Premium Plus) has the highest octane. Octane is the measure of the fuel's ability to resist “knock”.
Which gas is better 87 89 or 93? ›Regular gas is rated at 87 octane in most states, while premium gas is often rated higher at 91 or 93. Fuel with a higher octane rating can stand up to higher compression before it detonates. Essentially, the higher the octane rating, the lower the likelihood that detonation happens at the wrong time.
What happens if you put 93 octane in a 87 octane car? ›Premium gas 90-93 is completely okay to put in a standard vehicle. Car experts say there is no risk of damage to a standard car using premium fuel.
What happens if you mix 93 and 87 gas? ›Yes, drivers can mix the two types of fuel. The combined gas types will result in an octane level somewhere in the middle — something the vehicle “will survive,” according to The Drive.
Can I use octane booster instead of premium gas? ›Many of today's high performance cars require the use of premium fuel. If you find yourself in some location where the only fuel available is 87 octane then you may use an octane booster, in the recommended proportions, to bring the 87 octane up to that required by your car.
How can I increase my gas mileage by 70 percent? ›- Never drive above 45 mph. Yes, this includes highways. ...
- Remove passenger side mirror. ...
- Avoid braking and rapid acceleration. ...
- Turn off engine at red lights. ...
- Windows up/AC off. ...
- Try to stay relaxed. ...
- Legally draft when possible. ...
- Overinflate tires by 10 percent.
What speed maximizes MPG? ›
7. The Energy Saving Trust says that the most efficient speed you can travel in a car in terms of achieving the best fuel economy is 55-65mph. Any faster, though, and the fuel efficiency decreases rapidly. For example, driving at 85mph uses 40% more fuel than at 70mph (oh, and it's illegal too).
Does a cat back exhaust increase MPG? ›The cat-back system improves airflow, which means the engine doesn't work as hard to eliminate exhaust fumes. The reduced resistance minimizes the load on the engine, which leads to less fuel consumption. That said, the vehicle miles per gallon (MPG) or fuel economy increases in freeways and city roads.
Do Iridium spark plugs improve gas mileage? ›Improve the fuel economy with iridium spark plugs
Switching to iridium spark plugs can considerably improve the mileage of the gasoline vehicles on the highway. This change comes from the fact that you now have a better ignition profile to ensure the efficient burning of the fuel.
Experts agree putting Coca-Cola in a gas tank can ruin your car. Copyright 2022 Scripps Media, Inc.
Which spark plugs give the best gas mileage? ›Pulstar spark plugs generate the most rapid, powerful, and complete burn possible–resulting in both more power and better gas mileage. The ultra-efficient function of our performance spark plugs not only saves you money on gas, but it also lowers emissions.
Why am I getting worse MPG? ›Many of the main causes for poor gas mileage are mechanical and include things like improper air flow, faulty injectors or bad oxygen sensors. "Your vehicle needs both fuel and air to give the best fuel mileage," says Nicole Miskelley, manager at PMR Auto & Diesel Repair in Marion, Illinois.
Is it better to keep fuel tank full? ›Keeping a full tank of fuel enables you to track mileage and fuel costs. You won't lose as much fuel; empty space in the tank causes evaporation through the tank's ventilation system. There will be less inconsistencies with the fuel. The pump is cooled by the fuel.
What gas stations have Top Tier gasoline? ›- All Brands.
- Aloha Petroleum.
- ARCO.
- Beacon.
- Breakaway.
- Chevron.
- CITGO.
Several automobile manufacturers recommend the use of TOP TIER™ gasoline to maintain optimal performance. Costco is listed as a TOP TIER™ gasoline retailer. Find out more at www.toptiergas.com.
Is cheaper gas worse quality? ›Thanks to advances in engine technology, today's cars utilize onboard computers that adjust for variations in fuel so occasionally using cheap gas won't damage your engine. The difference between off-brand and Top Tier gas comes down to the degree of additives that afford more protection for your engine.
Is Costco gas lower quality? ›
Is Costco gas considered top tier? You might be worried that because the Costco gas prices are low, the quality of the fuel may not be great. But just like with all of the Kirkland items they sell in their warehouse, the Kirkland Signature Gasoline is top quality.
Is Techron actually good? ›In fact, using Techron® in a new vehicle is a good preventative measure to keep that new fuel system clean and deposit-free. It also helps to maintain the gas mileage that your new vehicle is designed to deliver.
Who makes Kirkland gas? ›Where Does Costco Get Their Gas? All of the gasoline sold at Costco Gas stations is Kirkland Signature™ gasoline, and Costco buys its gasoline from major and local refineries. Essentially, there is no big difference between Costco's gasoline and gasoline from other major suppliers like Shell or Chevron.
Where does Costco gas come from? ›A: Costco buys fuel from major refineries and distributors in each area. All Kirkland Signature™ Fuel is guaranteed, just like the merchandise we sell inside the warehouse.
Why is Arco gas so cheap? ›Arco gas is cheap because the company does the following: No processing fees: Arco does not use credit cards, so they don't have to charge more for credit card charging fees. Charges for debit cards: When customers use debit cards instead of cash, they charge an additional fee.
Who is the number one in natural gas? ›1. United States. The US is by far the largest producer of natural gas in the world, and represents nearly a quarter of total global natural gas production.
What is the disadvantage of high octane fuel? ›Simply put, higher octane gas won't lead to better car performance, more speed, better mileage, or your car running cleaner. Most cars require regular gasoline, and using higher octane means wasting your coins.
Why does Premium gas burn so fast? ›Higher octane gasoline reduces knocks and pings in high-pressure environments which exert more energy and burn fuel quicker.
What happens if I put 87 instead of 91? ›If the octane rating is less than 91, you could damage the engine and may void your vehicle warranty. If heavy knocking is heard when using gasoline rated at 91 octane or higher, the engine needs service.” Note that this applies only to engines that require premium gas.
Does Top Tier gas get better mileage? ›AAA further discovered that continued use of non-Top Tier fuel could result in 2% to 4% lower fuel economy over time and hasten the likelihood of maintenance issues. Top Tier fuel can even reduce the carbon residue of loyal generic gas use on an engine by 45% to 72% over 5,000 miles.
Is it worth buying premium fuel? ›
One of the main advantages of premium petrol is that it has an official rating. Unleaded premium fuel has an octane rating which shows how well the fuel resists pressure and premature ignition. Premium petrol can also help to reduce friction, resulting in cleaner engine components and a more efficient performance.
Does supreme gas give better mileage? ›In a word, no. On its own paying for premium gasoline does not make your car run better or get greater gas mileage. Giving your car the fuel it requires to run smoothly and efficiently, without damage to the engine, does make a difference in your fuel mileage.
Is it worth putting supreme gas in regular car? ›If your car's built for regular, paying a premium for premium gasoline is likely only going to benefit the oil company. That's because, despite the name, premium gas isn't necessarily better. It has a higher octane rating to keep it from causing knocking in high-pressure engines.
How much does premium gas increase mpg? ›“If you're using premium fuel in a car that recommends premium, our research found that it could improve horsepower and fuel economy, but only by about three percent. That's a very small difference,” he told VERIFY.
How much difference does premium fuel make? ›One of the main advantages of premium petrol is that it has an official rating. Unleaded premium fuel has an octane rating which shows how well the fuel resists pressure and premature ignition. Premium petrol can also help to reduce friction, resulting in cleaner engine components and a more efficient performance.
Does premium gas burn faster than regular? ›Engine Suitability: Regular unleaded gas burns faster than premium gas, which is why it works better with engines that have low compression ratios. If your vehicle's engine has a high compression ratio, it is best to use premium gasoline.
What happens if you put 93 gas in a 87 car? ›Engine computers can usually adjust their timing to account for the increased octane levels, so if you put premium gas in a regular car, you probably won't notice anything. However, some engines are not designed to burn higher-octane fuel, and you may see a reduction in performance and fuel economy.
Do I really need to use premium gas? ›If the car is designed for regular — or doesn't specifically say that the car requires premium gas — go with regular. There are no benefits to putting premium gas in a car that doesn't need it. Cars that require premium gas will typically specify the minimum octane rating necessary.
What are the pros and cons of premium gas? ›Premium gas has a higher octane level, making it much smoother for your engine. By ensuring that the engine combustion occurs at the right times, premium gas limits the amount of damage improper engine combustion may cause. Pro: If the vehicle asks for premium, standard gas could damage it.
Is premium fuel worth the cost? ›In a consumer notice, the Federal Trade Commission, notes: “In most cases, using a higher-octane gasoline than your owner's manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won't make your car perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner.”
Will mixing premium and regular gas mess up your car? ›
Can I mix premium and unleaded gas? Yes, drivers can mix the two types of fuel. The combined gas types will result in an octane level somewhere in the middle — something the vehicle “will survive,” according to The Drive.
Which fuel burns faster 93 or 95? ›95 PETROL DOES NOT HAVE MORE ENERGY THAN 93 PETROL
We tend to think that '95 petrol' has more energy than '93 petrol,' but that is not true. The octane rating refers to the fuel's resistance to auto-ignition, or otherwise known as 'knocking. ' Thus the higher the rating, the greater the resistance.
Higher-octane fuel does not burn hotter. It will not clean out deposits from an engine combustion chamber. And it will not provide any higher fuel economy. But an engine's octane rating can change over time.